All us good guys should be working together! After all, isn't one of the mortarchs an elector count these days? Nagash is practically an Imperial citizen at this point, :pĬommunity platform by XenForo ® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd. Call a truce to team up against chaos instead. IMO, the best option though is not to fight him at all.
#KARL FRANZ ASCENDED PLUS#
Multiple chaff units with champs plus invocation (an excellent option to tack onto other methods as a failsafe, since chaff is cheap and you want to take some anyway)
I kind of question this as well, though, since franz is only on a chariot base, and not the huge base of our dragons/tgs, making stone throwers a rather unreliable option. TK shooting, with multiple catapults plus Khalida and a huge block of archers. eeyrghsshsghĭoom & Darkness plus Tbats/casket/banshees, with or without Nagash Certainly the most epic option, but that would involve playing ETM, which is. Nagash on Fulcrum assuming ETMagic (or SoM, if SoM fulcrums make casters immune to multiwounds, cannot remember). Nagash in return causes 1.25 wounds per turn (1.875 if you can manage a VDM casting) so you won't be killing him any time soon, but Nagash is an effective tank at this point, and he can continue to cast all his summoning spells while in combat, so hes still doing what you want him to do while Franz is effectively removed from the game.įailing the desire to run this option (and the availability of end times magic), I agree, either a couple blocks of zombies or two units of dire wolves with champions to alternate challenging out and then just invocation them back on your next casting phase. So thats a really bad round from you and a really awesome round from him. Even if he manages to hit all 10 times (extremely lucky) you still have to fail 7 3+ ward saves to die in a single round. He shouldn't be able to ruin you before your next magic phase. So if you can manage to get 3 Lore of Vampires spells or a good casting of Breath of darkness off plus some filler LoV you can heal the damage he does each casting phase. Math Hammer wise, in this situation Franz on average causes 1.67 wounds a round. He is WS 7 (same as Nagash) and Toughness 5 so Nagash wounds on a 2+. Your ward save is better, and you remove his multiple wounds rule. You should be able to bait Franz into fighting Nagash on the Fulcrum.
The Fulcrum gives you a 3++ and makes you immune to multiple wounds. If you are doing end times magic, There is another way. You have to accept without cannons, we cannot deal with him in any meaningful fashion. you could try and 1st turn scream karl to death, but I think you're better off with a Ghoul King slayer against him. Casket on those war machines is also nice, despite the fact that they'll get that 18'' Ld bubble, Karl can't be everywhere! (or is it 24 with him? don't remember)ĥ. 2 Squads of 3-5 Vargheists to take care of all the shooting you'll probably face, and 2-3 Necros with different scrolls to maim his casting.Ĥ. Don't know here, would have to test it!ģ. Comet on the War machines, Iceshard Blizzard on Karl to have him fail some hits, Curse of the Midnight Wind on armored knights, thunderbolts for chaff/archers. Pray he doesn't save all and he should be dead.Ģ. 8 Str 8 attacks should suffice to pass through his ward, plus red fury to finish the job. Ghoul King with +3 attacks, pot of strength, OTS, Red Fury, Aura of Dark Majesty+Beguile OR Flight + Dreadknight (to catch on Karl and have better WS): That being said, there are a couple of things you can try to take on Karl Franz:ġ. Now that they have an über-killy lord as well makes it much more difficult. Nah, well Empire is already difficult with all the shooting. Don't! Just run away! D: chaff them all the way into a Chaos legions army and enjoy!
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